down unemployment. we're moving in the right direction but not quite as quickly as the data today would suggest. >> susie: 114,000 new jobs i mean, it's nice people are getting jobs, but it's flota really robust number, is it? what is it telling us about the labor market? >> right. 114,000 is okay. but it isn't robust. i think, though, as you kind of take a step back, look at job gains over the past six months, over the past year, over the past couple of years, wee gettinjob growth of about 150,000 per month. that's okay. in a normal economy we'd be pretty happy with that, but in this economy, where we have a high rate of unemployment and we want to get that down, 150 k is not enough. we need something north of 200,000 per month before we start feeling really good about the way things are headed. >> susie: mark, what's your take on the criticism by jack welch that we just reported on, where he's questioning the veracity of these numbers. do you believe today's numbers?